Most recent labor report for Genesee County: Jobs down, unemployment up

Good thing we have Mr.Hyde and his GCEDC creating thousands of job to keep us at the 9.5% level...When are county governments going to realize that IDA aren't creating the jobs they claim to be creating...Maybe we didn't give him a big enough bonus..Those numbers are terrible...

Something to bring up and throw in the county legislature's proverbial face...

Definitely not earning any bonus even though the legislature says they are.

OK, I'll say it.......the GCEDC is a (*edited) joke and Steve Hyde is the court jester, laughing all the way to the bank. This guy knows he has the legislature in his back pocket, and continues to deceive with his dog and pony ,smoke and mirror, travelling medicine show.
I love how they claim how complicated the reporting is. Accountability is in order here. You create a job, that counts as one job. You create 2 jobs, that counts as 2 jobs, and so on and so on. We have either ignoramus legislators, or we have criminal legislators...both are bad for Genesee County.
Howard, what would it take to get a PRECISE and ACCURATE accounting of all the jobs actually created? Not just a number, but actual people on the job. I think the people of our county deserve that, given the above story.
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"Unemployment in NYS has climbed year over year from 9.1 percent to 9.4, while the nation's rate has dropped from 8.8 percent to 8.5 percent."

Again, what a joke!

So happy legislator Ed DeJanerio (City 4th and 5th wards) voted to give GCEDC all that money. Time to send him packing this November.

Bud couldn't of said it any better my self...John i wish he was in my ward just to be able to vote him out...He is the same one who told us all we needed to buy our water from monore county..He is know standing up and telling us all we need to keep ARC and keep the trash in the city budget...So many reasons to get rid of him...Back to the Overpaid GCEDC head who's job it is to erode the tax base thru tax abatements and sales tax breaks...These above numbers speak volumes that IDA's do not work...All over the state they claim to create hundreds of thousands of jobs..Why then does New York have such a high unemployment rate...How much do these jobs they create really cost to create

The 800 pound gorilla in the room is the fact that NY's unemployment is rising when the national numbers are slowly trending in the other direction.

The anti-growth policies of the tax, borrow and spend crowd that run our state from NYC are bearing the fruit that they always do. Take a look at all the states that are "progressive" bastions and you will notice two things: High Unemployment and stagnant/receding economies.

Gee, I wonder why there is a correlation between high taxes and over-regulation and low employment numbers...

As businesses and workers continue to flee NYS, Prince Andrew and his Metropolitan supporters continue to pursue policies guaranteed to make the situation worse.

A trend to watch is finance and Wall Street brokerages leaving NYC and locating in states with no or lower income taxes. They can do everything they need to over the internet today, so why live in the Great State of Taxation? Wave goodbye to the suckers, they are waking up.

But you'd also have to somehow analyze how many of the credited jobs would have actually been created without the wheeling and dealing. Then you'd need to analyze each project to ascertain if there was negative impact by adversely affecting competitors in the area. It's not as simple as saying company X went from N to M employees since a GCEDC project was implemented. Oh, and are all the claimed employees actually county residents? Then total up the cost of paying for the GCEDC and the loss of revenue from any tax breaks, etc... for whatever time they are in effect. Yes, maybe there is some benefit when the dust settles and the companies start paying full rates, but that's difficult to quantify, especially if the concessions are still in effect. And what happens to the numbers if/when the companies subsequently shrink?

This does sound like a lot of work! But then again, since the GCEDC just gets handed public cash, they do not need to be fully accountable do they?

It's conjecture that things would have been worse without the GCEDC IF at the same time we also enacted cost of business reductions across the board and kept our local tax dollars local (or mostly local). Forcing anyone into risky business as a last resort because of unfair and costly state budget practices is essentially highway robbery. Change the game - stop playing by rules that push us into bad practices while perpetuating the non-value added cost of doing business in New York State. We do not get the bang for our buck in Genesee County.

Howard, shouldn't the "work" of analysis and accounting of the effectiveness of all GCEDC projects be a mandatory requirement of the County Legislature's responsibility of oversight? How can the Legislature approve the bonuses at GCEDC without having this data???

A problem I see with the numbers, there is no way to account for the number of people who have given up looking
for jobs after their unemployment benefits are exhausted.
Like any other statistical data, numbers can be manipulated for or against either side of an arguement.
If you're looking for honesty, you won't get it from GCEDC, or the county legislature.

Robert, my biggest fear is what happens when they reach the point where they have to pay their full share and the subsidies end. Whats to stop them from closing up and moving on. Isn't that what happened before that created the rust belt and all the closed manufacturing in this region.

Then what do we have to show for it, empty buildings, no employment and we are back to square 1. While Mr. Hyde and his cronies get rich off of our taxes and time. Thats why I object to such ridiculous pay with little results.

"the number of jobs in the county is an estimated 21,400.

A year ago, the jobs number was 21,500."

In the past year we saw the closing of Lowes which accounted for a job loss of about 150 FTE [Full Time Equivalents], couple that with a few other retail closings and it actually looks like some new jobs were added to Genesee County to the tune of about 250 FTE.

Now where those new jobs came from is still up for debate.

The bottom line however, when you couple the fact that the unemployment rate has risen across the entire State, indicates that what is at issue is far and away beyond GCDEC, The County Legislature etc.

I am not sticking up for GCDEC here, but it is clear to me while we sit here and quibble over a straw in the hay stack, the entire stack of hay may be blowing away in the wind.

In Genesee County we are looking at 9.5% Unemployment, in surrounding counties over 2% higher, just seems to me like the true slight of hand is coming from the State Government more than it is the County.

Remember, while the unemployment rate is declining slightly Nationally, it is increasing in the State itself.....

Not looking to argue Mark, just pointing out that Lowes closed Nov, 2011. Those lost jobs would be reflected in the previous year's numbers.
And no doubt this isn't just a local issue, it is a state wide problem.

I think that Fiscal accounting goes from October 31st each year where the numbers are tallied, I may be wrong but it doesn't matter Bud, the point is the same.

The problem with the numbers is in fact that it is NOT just a local issue, and we are faring better than surrounding counties, it is a State issue as I see it, and it is directly related to taxation.

There is only so far that you can go cutting locally, there are only so many services that can be cut without impacting the community.

I just watched this thread take it's eye off the ball, the true issue with unemployment is looking more and more as a result of Top down government rather thaan bottom up enterprise.

We are seeing it all over the spectrum, the more the State decrees, the less the localities can counter the aftermath

EDIT: I just looked it up, Genesee Fiscal year does run to 12 /31 each year so I will concede that point but according to the Statement from Lowes posted here http://thebatavian.com/howard-owens/employees-batavia-lowes-told-store-…
The employees were paid for 60-90 days after the store closed it's doors which still would have shown them as employed in January 2012

Mark: "the true issue with unemployment is looking more and more as a result of Top down government rather thaan bottom up enterprise. "

Absolutely and unequivocally.

It's too bad our state legislature (with the exception of a very very few) and governor won't relinquish a little but of control/power in order to help get the wheels of commerce turning. It's all about the damn special interests, and the large blocks of money available if the state maintains control.

At this point, all we can hope for, Kyle is that GCEDC learned something from the Pioneer Credit debacle, but probably not.

LOL Doug... people just don think it can happen to them though....til it does.