I haven't taken the poll nor seen the results, but based on comments seen on The Batavian about the Gov, my guess is that "Yes" will garner 52, maybe 53%...
I can't see how anyone could possibly vote no on this poll. How could anyone be so blinded by party loyalty to ignore a so-called "independent commission" to root out corruption being squashed by the governor who now says "Well, it wasn't really independent, they worked for me" Even though he said at the formation they could look at anyone, including himself. Over 1 million dollars was spent on this and then cancelled. Where's the fiscal responsibility for that? http://www.gothamgazette.com/index.php/government/4959-moreland-commiss…
Now, 5 of the grossly over-paid members of the commission are still on the state payroll!?!?!?!?! 4 months after it was ended. What's up with that? Hush money?
"I can't see how anyone could possibly vote no on this poll."
Either their victims of stockholm syndrome or they just hate anything or anyone from the other team. But then again the same could be said of some of the yes voters.
I'm on my townhouse board of directors, and after a majority passed a rather putrid motion intended to give a pass to a board member while the association was in the process of fining a non-board member for similar activity, the two of us who voted against the motion convinced the entire board to take the issue to the association attorney.
After much discussion, the attorney said "well, it doesn't pass the smell test, but the board had the right to pass the motion."
I lost it - "doesn't pass the smell test?!? THERE'S A HUGE PILE OF FECES RIGHT THERE!!" (Yep - I somehow managed to use the word "feces"...)
Feel free to borrow that line regarding the "ethics" panel scenario.
NYS has one of the most (arguably the most) corrupt state governments in the United States of America. That is not in dispute.
The problem is that the party in complete control of the hive of scum and villainy that is Albany has way too much invested to ever let the sunlight in. Downstaters and democrats, you own this. If you don't push back against the casual corruption that is the hallmark of the metro democrat machine, you are saying it is OK to violate the law, enrich your political cronies and stuff your pockets at the People's expense. You may not think it is OK, but if you just keep going along to get along, you are complicit.
You may complain about the TEA Party, but primaries are where you eject the scum that you mistakenly elevated in the past. The Working Families Party will regret not primarying Prince Andrew. de Blasio may regret that crooked political payoff sooner rather than later.
My nightmare scenario is a Cuomo vs. Christie presidential contest in 2016: Which corrupt big city politician and extortionist will win? Would it even make any difference? Primaries matter, people.
Republicans are every bit as complicit in the corruption and pay to play atmosphere in the state, Kyle. Term limits for every elected office, a non-partisan system and open ballot access is the way to fix it. Any party wanting a primary can have one, any party wanting to endorse candidates can do so, just not on the taxpayer dime. All candidates run as individuals. The swamp must be drained. Get the power to choose candidates away from party bosses, get ballot access away from the vote total a governor candidate gets, stop the fusion voting, stop allowing politics to be a career and get the money out of it. Then, maybe honest, everyday folk will be interested in spending a few years in government and then going back to their lives and letting fresh minds in.
Sorry, Dave, but "That's the Gyp".
Anyone who lived in Oakfield (or went to school there) in the 50's and 60's, knows what I'm talking about. I'm not sure what process was the culprit for the olfactory stimulation back then, but when the wind was blowing just right, it could get quite rough.
Oddly, I drove forklift there on the 'C-shift', taking finished wallboard off the line, and stacked it in the warehouse, or loaded flatbeds with it, for the final 13 months of the wallboard line, but by that time in life, that 'smell' wasn't there.
As a kid, we had no idea what it was, but, as an adult, I found out it was the smell of money.
I haven't taken the poll nor
I haven't taken the poll nor seen the results, but based on comments seen on The Batavian about the Gov, my guess is that "Yes" will garner 52, maybe 53%...
:-P
Try 74.9% Tim
Try 74.9% Tim ;)
I can't see how anyone could
I can't see how anyone could possibly vote no on this poll. How could anyone be so blinded by party loyalty to ignore a so-called "independent commission" to root out corruption being squashed by the governor who now says "Well, it wasn't really independent, they worked for me" Even though he said at the formation they could look at anyone, including himself. Over 1 million dollars was spent on this and then cancelled. Where's the fiscal responsibility for that?
http://www.gothamgazette.com/index.php/government/4959-moreland-commiss…
Now, 5 of the grossly over-paid members of the commission are still on the state payroll!?!?!?!?! 4 months after it was ended. What's up with that? Hush money?
To top it off, the owner of the intelligence data firm hired by the commission was a big fat campaign donator to one of the co-chairs!!!
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/politics/2013/10/8534729/moreland…
How much more evidence do you need. Maybe its all legal (I don't know) but it sure as hell is not ethical.
Cuomo gotta go!
"I can't see how anyone could
"I can't see how anyone could possibly vote no on this poll."
Either their victims of stockholm syndrome or they just hate anything or anyone from the other team. But then again the same could be said of some of the yes voters.
I'm on my townhouse board of
I'm on my townhouse board of directors, and after a majority passed a rather putrid motion intended to give a pass to a board member while the association was in the process of fining a non-board member for similar activity, the two of us who voted against the motion convinced the entire board to take the issue to the association attorney.
After much discussion, the attorney said "well, it doesn't pass the smell test, but the board had the right to pass the motion."
I lost it - "doesn't pass the smell test?!? THERE'S A HUGE PILE OF FECES RIGHT THERE!!" (Yep - I somehow managed to use the word "feces"...)
Feel free to borrow that line regarding the "ethics" panel scenario.
NYS has one of the most
NYS has one of the most (arguably the most) corrupt state governments in the United States of America. That is not in dispute.
The problem is that the party in complete control of the hive of scum and villainy that is Albany has way too much invested to ever let the sunlight in. Downstaters and democrats, you own this. If you don't push back against the casual corruption that is the hallmark of the metro democrat machine, you are saying it is OK to violate the law, enrich your political cronies and stuff your pockets at the People's expense. You may not think it is OK, but if you just keep going along to get along, you are complicit.
You may complain about the TEA Party, but primaries are where you eject the scum that you mistakenly elevated in the past. The Working Families Party will regret not primarying Prince Andrew. de Blasio may regret that crooked political payoff sooner rather than later.
My nightmare scenario is a Cuomo vs. Christie presidential contest in 2016: Which corrupt big city politician and extortionist will win? Would it even make any difference? Primaries matter, people.
Republicans are every bit as
Republicans are every bit as complicit in the corruption and pay to play atmosphere in the state, Kyle. Term limits for every elected office, a non-partisan system and open ballot access is the way to fix it. Any party wanting a primary can have one, any party wanting to endorse candidates can do so, just not on the taxpayer dime. All candidates run as individuals. The swamp must be drained. Get the power to choose candidates away from party bosses, get ballot access away from the vote total a governor candidate gets, stop the fusion voting, stop allowing politics to be a career and get the money out of it. Then, maybe honest, everyday folk will be interested in spending a few years in government and then going back to their lives and letting fresh minds in.
Tim; according to Google, my
Tim; according to Google, my house is 264 miles from the Governor's mansion in Albany. I can smell that huge pile from here.
Sorry, Dave, but "That's the
Sorry, Dave, but "That's the Gyp".
Anyone who lived in Oakfield (or went to school there) in the 50's and 60's, knows what I'm talking about. I'm not sure what process was the culprit for the olfactory stimulation back then, but when the wind was blowing just right, it could get quite rough.
Oddly, I drove forklift there on the 'C-shift', taking finished wallboard off the line, and stacked it in the warehouse, or loaded flatbeds with it, for the final 13 months of the wallboard line, but by that time in life, that 'smell' wasn't there.
As a kid, we had no idea what it was, but, as an adult, I found out it was the smell of money.