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A community divided over a pool

By Jennifer Keys

In the words of that iconic sitcom father, Frank Barone, “Holy crap, it’s hot!” I just got back from a ride in the Wrangler with the top down. I think I got too much sun. I could go dunk myself in our little pool in the back yard, but instead (at least for now), I’ve taken refuge in an air conditioned room in the house, to try to update you on the discussions about Le Roy’s community pool, as promised.

First, let's get this out of the way...Yes, we have a pool at my house. We purchased one from Target Memorial Weekend 2010 because it was really hot. After we purchased it, we learned that it required a 4-foot fence around it, no closer than 12 feet away and that the fence could not have any gaps big enough for a tennis ball to fit through. Whew, check! The house came with that. Oh yes, but we also needed electricity with proof that it was inspected and approved by a certified electrical inspector and an alarm on it. I think that covers the code, but please (now for the disclaimer) don’t quote me, you should really check with your local code enforcement officer because I think I forgot something in here and s/he would know much better than I. Welllllllllll, after the cost of the ditch-witch rental, the parts for the electric, the inspection, the alarm, the permit, and whatever else we had to do our $200 pool turned into about a $1,000 pool. I think it relevant to bring this up here because I saw in the Le Roy Pennysaver at the end of June a PSA by the Town reminding everyone of the codes involved with owning a pool. Not to sound too sarcastic (those of you who actually know me, know I am quite sarcastic), I wonder why there are fewer of these “inexpensive” backyard pools out than there were last year (or at least that’s my observation). Next disclaimer, this, of course, is nothing against the Town or any local government or code enforcement officer. I know from my experience that this is actually state code that is left upon local municipalities to enforce. They are just doing their jobs.

So, this blog is really about the Le Roy Community Pool that regional residents (from all over the area, not just Le Roy) raised funds to build a few decades ago. The pool has fallen into disrepair and was closed by the previous Village Board. My community is divided over what to do next.

On one side, are those who feel our taxes are too high (they are kind of high compared to the nation) and that we can no longer afford to pay for things like a community pool. Some of those on this side against it feel that it is used by a small number of people and that the rest of us should not have to pay for it. Also, there are pools in neighboring communities that we can use. There is also the issue of the recent property tax cap and how this might affect our ability to raise revenue in the future.

On the other side, are those who feel that a municipal pool brings a sense of community to an area and that such amenities may also attract new residents with families to purchase homes and move here. The community pool has been instrumental in teaching people how to swim over the years, and that’s a task of significant importance when you have a body of water running through your Town (used here because, after all, the Village is a part of the Town). It’s a place where people can go to cool off safely on a day like today. Recently there has been some publicity around people disappearing, almost drowning, or swimming near anglers in the creek. There may be some on this side who believe that if the pool were working these incidents would no longer occur. I’m not one of those; however, I do believe that if the pool were open there would be fewer incidents AND more people would know how to swim, hopefully reducing accidental drowning.

If you were at our Village Board meeting a few days ago, on Wednesday, July 13, you heard a letter read to everyone by Village Clerk/Treasurer Sharon Jeary from local attorney Mike Welsh. In the letter, Mr. Welsh outlined what needs to be done in order to bring the pool up to code and added a couple of bonuses (repairing a wall on the pool that has a crack in it and updating the bathroom/locker room facilities, neither of which are needed for code). A very generous local family has pledged $17,000 to our community to complete these repairs if the Village and Town make a commitment to maintain the pool after that. Many local contractors have volunteered their time, labor and supplies to complete this project. Many local people have volunteered to fund raise to keep the pool going so that the taxpayers are not burdened too heavily by it. You also heard members of the business community speak up in support of the plan and fundraising.

Recently our mayor gathered the figures for running the pool in its last two years of operation, 2007 and 2008. The Village paid for wages, benefits, equipment, permit, telephone, repairs, electric, heat, supplies, and insurance (property and liability) for a total of $26,231 and $37,513, each year respectively. The Town paid for a portion of the pool facilities, pool programs, American Red Cross, advertising, supplies, and pool employees, and were also responsible for the vending machine(s), for a total of $30,985 and $25,775, each year respectively. The pool was able to generate some revenue through memberships and swim lessons each year to reduce the grand total spent by taxpayers across both municipalities to $47,225 and $54,680 each year respectively.

Mike Welsh also outlined in his letter that he estimates it will cost $11,000 for yearly maintenance. There are many from the community who have stated at board meetings that they feel that a modest rise in membership fees would help significantly. There are also those who believe that a food stand would help in generating revenue, as it apparently does in other local areas. There are also many talented individuals living here who are willing to donate their time and supplies to help “spit shine” to make the pool look more aesthetically pleasing.

Again, it is no secret that I am one Village Board member in support of the Village running the pool. I believe it is our responsibility to ensure public safety through swim lessons and also to help provide a safe outlet for kids’ activities in the summer and after school. The pool would enhance our current outstanding recreation program. It is true that we do not have the tax base that we had in the past; much of our industry has closed or downsized, however, this should not be a barrier to our providing for our community (as has been suggested by some). In my humble opinion (OK, I really can’t do this without at least one more acronym), IMHO, it is up to us as a board and as a community to figure out how to capitalize on what we do have… which are, concerned and talented citizens who will donate time/effort/money, great shopping and restaurants, a nice village atmosphere.

Now that you have the monetary figures and a brief outline of both the argument and the remedy I hope that you will attend the Village Board meeting on Wednesday, July 27 at 7 p.m. to hear Mike Welsh and other community leaders speak in more detail about this proposal. I hope that you will speak up if you are able, no matter which side of the argument you are on, because I believe in democracy! Most of all, though, I hope that if you are in support of the pool you understand that your presence and your voice are greatly needed and ideas are always appreciated!

As always, and especially since this one is very long, thank you for reading! Thank you, Howard Owens, for hosting my blog.

Jennifer Keys

trusteekeys@rochester.rr.com 

Bea McManis

Jennifer,
We just got back from a tournament in Johnson City, NY. The tournament was held in a park that housed a community pool; baseball fields; hockey field, basketball court, volleyball court, tennis courts; horseshoe pits (8); plenty of parking and each venue had it's own concession stand and clean rest rooms.
Something for everyone.
Each activity appears to be maintained by the organizations that use it.
While looking around the area, we saw several multi purpose community parks.
The squeals and laughter coming from the pool indicated that there were quite a few people enjoying a swim on a hot Saturday afternoon.
Everywhere you looked, you could see something going on. A community working to gether is a good feeling.
Good luck on the pool.

Jul 17, 2011, 8:18pm Permalink
bud prevost

Ok Miss Bea, one penny, two penny, here's my 2 cents on that comparison. Johnson City(pop 15,535)is closer in size to Batavia (pop 16,256) than Leroy (pop 4,462).
I was recently reading the book commemorating the village's 175th. In 1984, they were lamenting the loss of industry in Leroy, but still managed to list 25 businesses that could be categorized as "industrial". Of those 25, 2 still exist..Leroy Plastics and Lapp. That's the harsh reality. Our commercial tax base is gone, and the residents of the village are crying uncle.
And, by the way, THANK YOU to Mr. and Mrs. Gomborone for their generous offer. Both lifelong residents, and both excellent people.

Jul 17, 2011, 9:00pm Permalink
lucie griffis

It is sad to say but as we see with Bud's comment that there are always gonna be those who call themselves a realist. I, too consider myself a realist but with a different view. No matter what we have no one to blame but ourselves as a community that the pool was allowed to be neglected and became in this state. We have elected officials who represent us and sit on our boards and if we do not go to those meetings or ask questions they are who makes our choices. It is never too late to right a wrong. No matter what we do not have and we can focus on all this loss of industry but focusing on what we do not have kinda stunts any growth we have as a community. Sometimes we have to take a leap of Faith and take a chance. This pool has been a big part of Le Roy for a long time. Yes some other communities have more industry, yes there is a tax cap going into effect, yes we have maintenance costs, blah, blah, blah- I could carrying on forever. WHAT WE DO HAVE IS A COMMUNITY THAT WANTS THIS POOL. WE HAVE TAXPAYERS THAT DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN WHO WANT THIS FOR THE YOUTH! Too much of our life focuses on what is negative. I am grateful for the Giamborone's donation offer. Every year with fundraising and possible other private donations we could get it up and running. We as taxpayers are always gonna complain about taxes- we pay too much, our boards make poor investments that in the end do not give the results we expected.....on, and on again. Let us not let the fear of what could happen outweigh any possibility of rebuilding our town and village to the wonderful community we used to be. I think if we can pull together to accomplish this it will be the beginning of rebuilding this community and the start of getting back our industrial base. We have to invest in what is here to build more. SAVE WHAT WE DO HAVE. Many youth in our community start great beginnings through our recreation program and our pool program. Yes there has been lower attendance. Yes many are lower incomes that use it. Big deal every community has that. The experiences our youth get from those that work our Summer program touch children's lives. I grew up at that pool every summer. I took swim lessons there. IT'S TIME WE TURNED OUR COMMUNITY AROUND. THIS POOL REOPENING IS ONLY THE BEGINNING TO WHAT WE CAN DO. Too many of us are busy and lose sight of what we do have here. We are a great place to live. We have great opportunity here. Let's focus on what we do have and build it back up. Enough of why we should not. You have nothing to fear but fear itself. Nothing grows from fear. OUR TAXES ARE GONNA GO UP ANYWAY. WE WILL ALWAYS COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM. NOTHING GETS DONE WITHOUT TAKING CHANCES. This is just the beginning of great things to come.

Jul 17, 2011, 10:18pm Permalink
Bea McManis

Bud, my point was this park, and others, made a difference because the organizations that sponsor the activities help pay for them. For example, the horseshoe club paid $12,000 to have the pits put in after the entire park was flooded in 2006. http://www.freelanceconstruction.biz/past-work/southern-tier-horseshoe-…
They maintain their part of the park, mowing the lawn and keeping the area clean. They have a concession stand, storage area. I noticed the same sort of structures at each activity site.
They charge a league fee and a membership fee. Their little slice of the park pays for itself. I've no doubt, based on the usage of the park I observed over the weekend, that the community's volunteers do a great deal to keep this park in shape.
For some reason, this clip came to mind when there is a discussion about doing something for kids or the elderly.
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Jul 17, 2011, 10:40pm Permalink
Sharilyn Fotiathis

I wish I was filthy rich, I would pay for everything myself. How sad to see a beautiful community that is so "pro children" at such odds.

Jul 18, 2011, 10:15am Permalink
lucie griffis

Sharilyn, you are correct. We are very pro children here. We focus on all these awards our school receives. All the great things it has to offer. But sadly we have neglected a main feature. Just as I repeated in my blog to go with Jennifer's- We just have to take a leap of FAITH! This is the beginning of rebuilding what we have lost here. It will never get better if we keep closing things. Thankfully Jennifer Keys has chosen to join our community and reminds us as one of our elected officials what potential is here. It may be a little rusty on the outside and old but we can revive this community. Hopefully in future elections we replace our boards with people who have visions to see a brighter future instead of letting what we lost hold us back.

Jul 18, 2011, 3:24pm Permalink

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